Saturday, October 15, 2011

The Harbinger by Jonathan Cahn


It started out with a package in the mail, a round archaeological artifact. It was a seal like those used to mark important documents.
Nouriel begins a dialogue on a park bench with a man who sees the seal. He has a seal too. He is a prophet. The prophet has a message for America. Like the ancient nation of Israel, America “is a nation conceived and dedicated to the will of God from its conception...” and “is in covenant with God.” (19) (Please see my critique of this statement below!) America was to “be a vessel of redemption, an instrument of God's purposes...” (19) Since America is turning away from God the hedge of protection will be removed.
Nine Harbingers, seen in Isaiah 9:10, are woven through the story. The first is the breach – the wall of protection is broken. That happened September 11, 2001. America made the mistake of not searching its heart after this attack. There was no thought of a judgment from God.
The second seal represents America invading Iraq, land of the ancient Assyrians.
With the third the nation rebuilds, stronger than before, but without seeking God, without repenting.
The fourth Harbinger reveals the leaders vowing to rebuild an even bigger tower with a defiant spirit.
The fifth Harbinger speaks of foundations and the huge “Freedom Stone” at Ground Zero.
The sixth, a fallen sycamore tree, symbolic of uprooting. The Tree of Hope is “the sign of a nation's defiant rejection of God's call to return.” (95)
The last two harbingers are unlike the others yet like all of them. They were Isa. 9:10 spoken after the disaster of 9/11.
Harbinger eight is the utterance, spoken by the VP candidate, John Edwards, at a Black caucus prayer breakfast on Sept. 11, 2004 (ch 12 footnote 4) “...at that time, among the most prominent of the nation's leaders.” (106) Cahn's character says, “...he was pronouncing judgment on America.” (110) (See my comments below.)
The only hope for America is for people called by His name to repent (2 Chronicles 7:14).

This is an amazing novel (but I do have my reservations – see below). The parallels between Isaiah 9:10 and the events as Cahn has described them are very thought provoking. We Americans certainly need the message of repentance. The necessity of salvation is presented at the end of the book as well.
While a novel, Cahn says, “...what is contained within the story is real.” (v) If you would like to get an idea of what that is, see http://isaiah910.com/page10/page10.html for pictures and additional information.
There are videos on YouTube, just search for The Harbinger.
See also, www.jonathancahn.com. (Although, as of 10/16/2011 there was really nothing there.)

Cahn uses dialogue to convey concepts and to preach to the reader. It gets a bit tiresome after a while. It is almost like listening to a lecture where, when the speaker is ready to talk on the next point, someone asks him the precise question of that point.
Part of me wonders why Cahn has used the fiction format to get this message into print. Does a novel really carry the same impact a well presented nonfiction book would? The end message is sobering. I am just not so sure fiction is the proper way to convey it.

Charisma House, 254 pages.

I received an egalley from the publisher for the purpose of this review.

Now for my reservations:

Is America in covenant with God? Is America the “new Israel”?  Certainly, not all scholars think so.  Monsma says, “...it is irresponsible for us evangelicals, who have a high view of Scripture, to apply the promises and warnings made in the Old Testament to the present day United States. There is no biblical basis for believing that God has made a special covenant with the United States or named Americans as his chosen people. Today God works through his worldwide church, which is drawn out of “every nation, tribe, people and language” (Rev. 7:9), not through a special, chosen nation. The United States is not the equivalent of Old Testament Israel.” (Steve Monsma, Healing for a Broken World, Crossway Books, 2008, page 22.)

Did Edwards pronounce judgment on America? I am not sure an individual never elected to any political position higher than representing a state, can speak for the nation, or pronounce judgment on a nation.

So what about all the events recorded in this book that align so closely to the interpretation of Isaiah 9:10?
Here is an example of how the characters pursued a symbol of prophecy:
“A breach in a holy place?”
“Yes. So I began searching for anything having to do with a breach in a house of worship...and of significance for America.” (192)
Do we take a Scripture from the Old Testament and then try to find the events in the United States that fulfill it? (Of course, after the fact.)
So we have one verse in Isaiah for which Cahn has found parallel events in the United States. We know the trouble one can get in by using one verse to prove something...

Speaking of St. Paul's Church, “'America,' said the prophet, 'was dedicated as a nation on this ground to God.'” (212) He had earlier quoted Washington's command for people “to commit the new government to the holy protection and blessing of the Most High.” (202) The newly inaugurated Washington and the Congress went into St. Paul's Church to pray (for protection and blessing). To me, this is very different than Solomon's word to God before the nation of Israel, committing that nation to serve and worship God.

It is interesting, to me at least, that 9/11 and the Wall Street economic collapse (two big judgment events according to Cahn) occurred during the presidency of George W. Bush, probably the most outspoken “Christian” president we have recently had.

So I have mixed emotions about this book. It was an exciting read but I think it has very serious theological problems.  


34 comments:

Anonymous said...

I have to admit I'm curious about it. I'll get it out of the library. I'm not going to spend money on it. The novel as a format for this sort of messaging could I agree get tiresome. Anyone who has read, or tried to read, Atlas Shrugged or The Fountainhead knows what I mean.

Anonymous said...

We must remember that books that fall under the genre of christian inspiration, regardless of what format they are written in, are not canonized scripture or the inerrant word of God. They are the author's personal thesis and they all have their strenghts and weaknesses. There are some authors who employ an allegorical method of interpreting scripture. Meaning they don't follow a literal interpretation. The allegorical interpreter/author attempts to find hidden, mystical meanings in the sacred text itself. Furthermore, by following this allegorical method of interpretation, you can take any passage of scripture and give it your own personal meaning, when you are using your own personal hermenuetics and playing by your owns rules of interpretation. This is known as EISEGESIS, meaning putting your own preconcieved ideas in, thus creating scriptural mysteries out of one's own imagination. Sounds fantastic? It's been happening since early church history. Our church fathers
Origen, Philo, and St. Augustine used this method of interpreation.
And christian bookstores are stacked with these kinds of books.
Many christians read them and accept them as the GOSPEL TRUTH without bothering to question their theology/hermenuetics.
If you enjoy reading a book that's based on sensationalism and that provides a good adrenalin rush, well then this book is for YOU!
But as for me and my house, we will not waste our time or money.
GOD BLESS!

Anonymous said...

I just read an article on the Charisma Magazine website about The Harbinger. In this interview the article stated that Sid Roth proclaimed Jonathan Cahn as the successor of David Wilkerson's prophetic mantle as America' prophet.
Really Sidney? What are you basing this blasphemous claim on? Can you prove it? The word of God clearly states the criteria which God uses to call someone a prophet unto the nations. It's found in
Jeremiah 1:5! A person just doesn't get up one morning from bed, decides to do some research to write a book, do a couple of tv show interviews and
"presto changeo" becomes a prophet. If it's that easy then we should all start writing books on end time prophecy so we to can become prophets. Hmmmmm....not a bad idea. I think I'll write one myself!

Anonymous said...

Anonymous 2
I only came across this a couple of weeks ago Very interesting
Thankyou for sharing it
YOu seem to be under a lot of attack by people who may know word useage but don't really KNOW GOD or His Spirit in the Scriptures... because if they did they would know better than to be nasty rude cutting unkind; full of self love, pride and cheap ..my view of them is.....not "Christian" ..not Christ Like .. and wont win any souls....sad....sad...sad ....
when ever God has given me a Vision he has given me scriptures to confirm it, usually three times or more
I will be looking forward to payday so I can BUY your book and CD's etc God Bless

Ground Zero said...

WTC Towers - The Seven Kings of Revelation 17?

Revelation 17
9. And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth.

There are 7 major mountain ranges in the United States of America:

1 - Rocky Mountains
2 - Appalachian Mountains
3 - Ozark Mountains
4 - Cascade Mountains
5 - Sierra Nevada Mountains
6 - Alaska Range
7 - Brooks Range (White Mountains - Alaska)

10. And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space.
Revelation 17:10 And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, [and] the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space.

All 7 WTC Buildings were destroyed as a result of the 9/11 terror attacks.
Five WTC Buildings are under construction at this time.
One has been completed. (WTC - 7 in 2006)

There is no clearly defined 6 World Trade Center in the new World Trade Center master plan however it is most likely that one will be eventually included and constructed parallel to the others in the plaza. Five are fallen...one is (WTC 7)...and one is surely to come and must continue a short space. (WTC - 6?)

These kings are also referred to as "mountains". The towers being representative of financial power through world trade, in large part, control the free market economy of the entire world, even affecting countries that are not free. In this respect they are "kingly" as well as being "mountainous" forms of steel and concrete.
Might this possibly mean that time is limited for the new WTC buildings along with the entire city of New York? And why did John the Revelator use the word "space" rather than the word "time" if the intention was to imply a period of time? 'Dis is what I 'tink...he meant just what he said...space would indicate area, not time. Building 6 may break ground and even get partially built, "continuing a short space", before something happens...but what? Whatever it is, I don't think it will be good.

WTC 1 - Opening Dec. 2012
WTC 2 - Opening 2014
WTC 3 - Opening 2014
WTC 4 - Opening 2013
WTC 5 - Opening 2013
WTC 7 - Completed 2006

And.....

"U.S. of America" = 666
"New York" = 666
"New Whore" = 666
"A New Babylon" = 666

where A = 6, B = 12, C = 18, D = 24.....Z = 156

Anonymous said...

Dear Ground Zero:
I read your comments. Unfortunately I have to disagree with it. There is a serious problem with your hermenuetics. You have an allegorical method of interpreting scripture(please read my comments posted Jan 5th). I am not trying to be offensive but helpful. I recommend you purchase two books that will serve as a great asset for you to clear up these misconceptions.
1) What is the Antichrist Islam Connection by Roland L. Back and
Michael A.H. Back
2) Things to Come by J. Dwight Pentecost.

I hope you read this comment. I am sure if you act upon my suggestion you will not regret it.

God Bless!

Anonymous said...

Come on people...just the fact that you would try or want to distance America from having a relationship or bond with God says enough, don't you think? Wake up...and return to the God who made this country what it is to begin with!

Anonymous said...

Cool idea. Great that people want to get renew their relationship with God. However, and I say this as a devout Christian and a Scholar this idea has just as many holes as every apocalyptic theory. A) The United States was not founded for God or to glorify him in any way. This nation began early as a place for Britain's unwanted to seek refuge. Think of it almost as the first settlers are like straight D students seeking a new chance at CC college. That includes many of the first colonies beginning as penal colonies or "big open prisons". Fast forward to the creation of the United States, and our "first president" John Hanson and we see the original U.S government The Articles of Confederation which had little to no influence from the Bible. Go even a tad farther to our first successful and current government the U.S constitution and we can clearly see the intention of the framers was not to create a Government in Gods eye but instead create a Government the world over would idol. (Fun Fact) Of the framers or idolized miscreants as I like to call them, a little known fact about the ever so loved Benjamin Franklin is that most historians agree he was a child molester and not only a child molester but he is credited with the invention of the sexual act known as a "gloryhole". The framers or founding fathers as most call them where not perfect but men, anything but perfect men. Moving on, anyone ever see the capital building? The rotunda? Which depicts George Washington not as a man but as a GOD. That's correct he is depicted in what most would call a paganism depiction of God. In the corner of the rotunda room there once stood statue of GW once again not as a man but as a GOD. He is depicted in Romanesque Zeus like stature tunic, sword, throne and all. In 1843 however the statue was moved to the American History museum. But wait. Neptune, Minerva,Mercury, Vulcan, Ceres, all Roman Gods all depicted in the Capital building rotunda. Does this mean God should not be in politics. No. Does this mean we should research before we take anything out of the ordinary as proof? Absolutely. This book links scripture and events in attempt to prophesier a major downfall in our time. As a God loving Christian I can say this book has to many holes for me to believe in it. However it was well written and interesting to say the least.

Lee Richard said...

Thank You! A lot of things are clarified in your post. Aloha & Blessings!

Anonymous said...

Ma'am,
While I do agree with your initial critique of the book and disagree with Rabbi Cahn's assertion that America is a "covenant nation", I do have to take exception to something in the Monsma quote:
"There is no biblical basis for believing that God has made a special covenant with the United States or named Americans as his chosen people. Today God works through his worldwide church, which is drawn out of “every nation, tribe, people and language” (Rev. 7:9), not through a special, chosen nation."

This is just not true. The UNCONDITIONAL and UNILATERAL promises made to Abraham by God in the Abrahamic Covenant ARE still in full affect for Israel. If you read those verses carefully and in context, you will see that God did not make them contingent on Israel's behavior...hence why Israel is back in the land again after 2000 years, just as the Hebrew prophets foretold. The church has NOT replaced Israel. This is called Replacement Theology. They both have different missions and different roles. I am not a dual-covenant person...I believe that Jew and Gentile both must be saved through Jesus Christ, but national Israel is waiting to "look upon Him whom they have pierced" (Zechariah 12:10). Romans 10-11 makes that abundantly clear. I enjoyed your review though!

prophecy student said...

Most people do not know that a little old lady by the name Ellen G. White was given a vision of what was going to happen somewhere in the future in New York city. She had this vision on August 1904. Those who are curious to read it can be found in the book Testimonies for the Church Vol. 9 starting page 11. 6 months earlier in Feb.1903 she writes a letter addressing the fact that when these great buildings in New York city will be destroy by the hand of God, the words of Revelation 18:1-3 will be fulfilling. This can be found in the book "Life Sketches" page 411. The last warning to the whole world has began in 9/11/01 but most people do not understand the times that we are living in. The SDA as a church does not promote this, nor acknowledge this, but there are a few that have recognized the times that we are living in. We trace back our understandings to the 1843 and 1850 Charts of the Millerites movement. The 1st woe and 2nd woe of REvelation is Islam therefore the 3rd woe will have to do with Islam again. I believe God has used this man, Jonathan Cahn, to give the trumpet a certain sound since the SDA church is not willing to do it. Ecumenism is a strong movement in all religion including in ours. God will judge His people for not being faithful. Ellen G White was a messenger of the Lord and she had about 2000 visions which about 200 of them were public. We are living in the time of the Judgement of the Living and very soon a big test shall come upon the world. Who will they worship? Man made laws or the Laws of the Creator of all things? We are told that the 4th commendment will be the testing commendment for all. Those that want to learn more about what is to come read the "The Great Controvery" by EGW. We are told history will repeat and so we see it in this book that this man had written. I do agree that he should have written it in a different format. The information in it is far too serious to have been written in a novel format. But I am glad at least is out and people can read it and think about it. America is the beast that comes out of earth in Revelation 13 and America is described in an interesting way. It looks like a beast with two horns like a lamb, but speaks like a dragon. We have entered the dragon like stage. The lamb like horns has grown into full maturity and now America is begin to speak like a dragon. As president Obama pointed out after he became president while he was in Turkey" American no longer thinks itself as a Christian Nation, but a Nation that is made up of different religions". Well I believe America was considered a Protestant country, but we no longer have anything to protest against. What Martin Luther protested against in his days of age, no longer stands with the protestants of today. Rome has been forgotten and no longer is understood what the words of the Book of Daniel and of Revelations are saying about the beats that was different then all the other beast. May we be willing to read our Bibles and study the books of Daniel and Revelation so we know what will happen.

Stanley OByerly said...

I have just read your book and it was very informative. The one thing I can't understand is why you use the pagan titles for Elohim instead of Yahweh. If you have read any hebrew one should know what his name is.

Anonymous said...

THE MAN IS A FALSE PROPHET WHO LIKES TO PROPHESY FOR PROFIT.
PEOPLE BEWARE....JUDE 11

Anonymous said...

YEAH RIGHT....THE ONLY MYSTERIES THAT EXIST WITH THIS GUY ARE THE ONES HE FABRICATED OUT OF HIS OWN IMAGINATION! HAS ANYONE SCRUTINIZED THIS MAN'S HERMNENUETICS? MR. CAHN NAME ME ONE BUILDING IN GROUND ZERO THAT WAS MADE OUT OF BRICKS? THE WTC COMPLEX WAS CONSTRUCTED FROM STAINLESS STEEL, ALUMINUM AND GLASS! YET IN YOUR BOOK AND PRESS CONFERENCES YOU STILL INSIST THAT BRICKS CAME DOWN. REALLLY?

Anonymous said...

HAIL TO THE RABBI MYSTERIO!
THE FALSE PROPHET....

Andrew Bunce said...

To "prophecy student"...you are obviously a 7th Day Adventist. Unfortunately, Mrs. White was herself a false prophet. She said many things that did not come to pass and even reversed herself on many of her earlier teachings. You and find this in Dr. Walter Martin's "Kingdom of the Cults" and various discernment websites that can be found with an easy google search on the subject. She unfortunately falls under the Deuteronomy 18:22.

Anonymous said...

Yeah, a false prophet would tell you to repent.......... You people are rude, rude, rude. It is a wake up call. Yeah, the devil would tell you to repent wouldn't he? Whatever backbiters!

JimmieK said...

This is how Jonathon Cahn himself describes his book The Harbinger by Strang publishing. Strang as you know is the family that brought us Todd Bentley’s Lakeland Revival. Strang also publishes Charimsa magazine promoting such WOF heretics as Benny Hinn, Jesse Duplaintis etc.

“Jonathon Cahn’s new book The Harbinger. As with such books as The Shack, The Davinci Codes, and The Celestine Prophecies, and the Richest Man in Babylon, is a fictional narrative. The Harbinger becomes the vehicle for conveying the message…the difference being the context is biblical (lie) and the purpose is of God (blasphemy). 272 pages”

He compares his book to The Shack…that is all you need to know about him…..

Cahn is a quack. A bad one at that. Harbinger is complete junk.

You know that God’s prophecies are over Israel and AMERICA MEANS NOTHING! Ouch. As Americans we really want it to all be about us. As American Christians we believe we are the most important people on Earth. That is how this con man is making money off the arrogance and pride of the American Christian. ME, Me, Me, America, America, America…you need to listen to MacArthur’s series on “The Christians Place in a Pagan World”- 4 part series…MacArthur starts out stating that… “America is a pagan nation.” Period. Pinto proves that is was always based on pagan beliefs.

America is not mentioned in the prophecies, and there is no amount of fervent prayer that will ever turn America to God. 2 Chron. 7:14 is written to Israel. In every case such as Jonah, or 2 Chron 2:20 the Battle of Jehoshaphat….God did restore their land, after EVERY SINGLE PERSON IN THAT CITY REPENTED AND TURNED TO GOD…that will never happen in a America, and American laws prevent an attempt from ever taking place. IN the 2 Chron 7:14 scripture there are two parts…Our part- “If my people who are called by my name will humble themselves……” and God’s part- “I will forgive their sins and heal their land.” I have no doubt God will hold up His end… but OUR part??? Forget about it.

So you really think that God will specifically judge America and not Norway which is almost 100% atheist? Or South America which is so corrupt that is run by gangs and drugs lords, or China which denies God and aborts 3x’s more babies than the US….The whole world is coming into the final phase. Gods judgment will be on ALL the nations of the Earth as written in the prophecies. One world government, One world religion….this is happening…there is no time for America to be Judged and then “return” to God… Americans must get over themselves…….the final end times have begun. Cahn is a snake oil sells man getting rich off biblically and prophetically ignorant Americans. Think his book sells well overseas? Outside his Sid Roth, Todd Bentley Steve Strang crowd?

I Listened to the 2 part Sid Roth interview for a friend….(needed a shower after carousing with Sid)…I believe Cahn speaks of returning America BACK to faith in God. America was never a complete Christian Nations, between the American Indians- pagan, Catholicism- pagan, Masonic Baptist- pagan, New Agers-pagan, Wicca-pagan, Gnosticism-pagan, Black liberation theology-pagan….what are we to turn back to?

Anonymous said...

Great post....totally agree! My daughter is a more of a "baby" Christian than I am. I personally believe we are given the "spirit" of discernment if we will ask. I tend to watch some "Tv Evangilist" & was horrified last week to see Jim Bakker back on TV & doing the same exact thing he did 30+ years ago!! She & I were discussing it & I was telling her about a local family, we live in a small town where everyone knows each other or remember their family, that lost their daughter to lung cancer & how this family were (in our small community) An "upstanding Christian family".. They had every outward "appearance" anyway. Long story short, the mother no longer has faith in "god" b/c he did not heal her daughter... Only problem is that, I now know that this mother's faith wasn't in my Creator, but was in Benny Hinn!!! So much so, that she took her daughter out of the hospital to one of his "circus shows" & the belief that her daughter would be healed & cured from this terrible illness. Tragically, the young mother of 3 small children passed away about 2wks after she had been "healed" by Mr. Hinn, leaving this mother/grandmother to raise her grandchildren. I was telling this story to my daughter, who is a couple of years older than the oldest child left behind by the young mother's passing, & she had never heard of Benny Hinn or Mr. Bakker, she went YouTube & was shocked & horrified at what she saw & how many people were still "following" these men, she couldn't believe just by watching clips of Mr. Hinn's "crusades", just how many people really do "buy" into false things of this world!! God is revealing things to those who ask Him.. I believe that He still uses Prophets as well, but we as followers have to use discernment of the Spirit! God is preparing His Church for something & I suggest that we all hit our knees & ask for His guidance & wisdom as to what lies ahead of us all & what He wants us to do to prepare for His coming!

Anonymous said...

THE HARBINGER IS A CONCOCTION FROM A PSUEDO PROPHETIC EXPERT. IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE ME I SUGGEST YOU READ AN ARTICLE WRITTEN BY MR. DAVE JAMES TITLED" THE HARBINGER:
FACT OR FICTION" @ BIBLICALINTEGRITY.ORG. YOU CAN ALSO LISTEN TO A DEBATE BETWEEN DAVE JAMES AND JONATHAN CAHN @
PROPHECY FOR TODAY'S WEBSITE HOSTED BY DR. JIMMY DE YOUNG.
THEN DRAW YOUR OWN CONCLUSIONS. I HAVE ALREADY DRAWN MY MINE.

Anonymous said...

Hi Joan,

Good review. You might be interested in mine @ http://www.biblicalintegrity.org/blog/2012/04/26/harbinger-fact-fiction/

In it I deal with a number of your concerns in-depth.

Dave James

Anonymous said...

The Harbinger is a great book that presents the message of God calling people to return to Him or they will face dire consequences. For all naysayers, it is important for each one to ask himself or herself: "Just why is it that I cannot accept the central message of this book?" The answer is obvious. The ones who don't want to see the parallels between the ancient Jewish people and their enemy and their eventual doom just don't want to see it. These people are the ones who want to continue in their sin because they enjoy their lifestyle.

Anonymous said...

I just finished the book and am amazed by it.

I wasn't raised in religious family and have had to seek and find my own way.

As such, the Bible was just a difficult book to understand or a collection of stories, or, at best, a pseudo history book.

Cahn has shown me things that made the Bible real and relevant. And The Harbinger made God far more real to me by showing me some things I already knew, but failed to realize their meaning or see the evidence of His hand in the events of the day.

While many may be sincere, so many of the comments here, and the attitudes behind them, are the reasons I stay away from Church and organized Christianity.

If that's what Heaven and Salvation are like, who would want to be surrounded by such sanctimonious, holier than thou types for eternity?

Sounds more like what's supposed to be in the basement, not the top floor.

Criticize all you want to, but be aware that you're turning heads and hearts away, whereas Cahn has turned my head and heart toward God and Salvation.

And I know I'm not the only one.

Isn't that the idea? Isn't that the point??

Anonymous said...

IN 1984 GOD SENT A PASTOR/PROPHET FROM ROMANIA TO AMERICA TO GIVE THIS NATION A WARNING. THE PASTOR IS DUMITRU DUDUMAN. GOD SENT HIS ANGEL TO SHARE THAT MESSAGE. I WONT GO INTO ANY DETAILS, BUT YOU CAN GO TO YOU TUBE AND JUST TYPE HIS NAME IN THE SEARCH BAR. ALSO THERE WAS A BOOK RELEASED BACK IN
2008 TITILED "PROPHECIES OF THE FALL OF AMERICA" PRINTED BY THE PROPHECY CLUB.ORG. THERE, DUMITRU AND OTHER MODERN DAY BIBLICAL PROPHETS SHARE THEIR REVELATIONS CONCERNING THIS NATION'S DESTRUCTION. IN LIGHT OF RECENT EVENTS CONCERNING PRESIDENT OBAMA'S
SUPPORT OF SAME SEX MARRIAGE, YOU WILL UNDERSTAND WHY GOD, THROUGH THE ARCANGEL GABRIEL TOLD DUMITRU THAT AMERICA IS LIKENED TO SODOM AND GOMORRAH, AND WHY THIS NATION WILL BURN IN ONE DAY.
THESE TESTIMONIES ARE NOT DESEMINATED THROUGH FICTIONAL CHARACTERS. THEY ARE MODERN DAY BIBLICAL PROPHETS. AND THE HARBINGER PALES IN COMPARISON TO WHAT THEY HAVE TO SHARE. I SINCERELY BELIEVE THE HARBINGER CONTAINS THEOLOGICAL AND HISTORICAL FATAL FLAWS AS PREVIOUSLY DISCUSSED BY DAVE JAMES IN HIS ARTICLE: THE HARBINGER: FACT OR FICTION. THAT IS WHY I CAN'T ENDORSE THIS BOOK.

Anonymous said...

Will somebody please tell this fuzzy wuzzy false prophet to take a shave?

Anonymous said...

I have read this book twice now, and have taken the time to check out each 'historical' fact mentioned in regard to the land that the towers were built on, the fact that the sycamore tree is credited with saving the church, was replaced by the cedar tree, the 'hewn' granite stone that was put in as a symbolic cornerstone, all of the speeches that were referenced-by all of the 'leaders'-not just Edwards,the speech that George Washington gave, how they did walk to St. Paul's church for prayer after his inaugauration speech, the dates of the attack and the 2008 market crash-and how they did indeed fall on the day of the Jewish Shemitah, how the stock market did fall by 777 points, which represented 7% of the total value, which was the largest loss in the history, making the last largest fall on 9/17/01 the second largest in history. So how anyone could say that the book contained 'historical flaws' is beyond me? I was not able to find a contradiction to a single fact
alluded to in the book! (Yeah, the towers were steel instead of brick, are you going to condemn everything based on that one? The context of the verse is that Israel thought that they could fortify and rebuild stronger-without having to rely on God-we just happen to have different building materials now days-duh)

I do believe we need to be 'Berean' in our approach to anything theological outside of the Bible itself, but I also am at a loss as to what theological flaws there were? No, America is NOT the new Israel, no nation will ever be, but we were founded as a nation "under God", whether we like it or not now-which it seems that most don't anymore-they just want to enjoy the benefits that is theirs too because of that fact. And although we're not the new Israel, what other country on earth, was founded such as ours-with such a close, initially anyway, alignment with Yahweh? I believe the book is right on the mark personally, and there are too many documented parallels to the ancient situation to where this can't be anything other than God being His Gracious, Merciful, always calling and warning Self before He HAS to pronounce further judgement on this fallen nation of ours. It's just my prayer that we don't follow their path in disregarding and persecuting the prophets as well. But if the earlier comments are representative of the general audience of the book, hopefully everyone can at least be in agreement with the final chapter in the book-that's the main thing-and would work to the same hoped for response anyway.

Rani<> said...

Dear Anonymos, When you meet God, this will be a real icebreaker for you.Just don't lead others astray! Rani<><

Anonymous said...

As a "born again Christian", I found this book chilling. Reading the comments was such a disappointment. I bought several copies to give to friends; those who are believers and those who aren't. Now reading so many negative comments, I realize; like reading the Scriptures, if you know the Living God you have more spiritual understanding. If you don't believe, a book which gives a very interesting (and truthful) events, won't change your mind. Only God can.

Thank you Jonathan Cahn for allowing the Holy Spirit use you for this wonderful book.

Brian Kurt said...

Everybody here who is anonymous is obviously either biasded, didnt read the book, or is afriad of other people's critizism and just a plain chicken for not being man enough to post their name

Mark Jones said...

Let me help you all here and explain to you that you are reading a book written by the Hebrews.

It is their book not the Western worlds.

Study the Hebrew for yourself.

The 24 books are called the
TANAKH

TORAH- 5 BOOK OF MOSHE

NEVI'IM- THE PROPHETS

KETHUVIM- THE WRITINGS

And by the way Yeshua (Jesus for the christian) was a Ribbi
of the tribe of Yehuda or Judah.

Judah is where the name Jew came from.

Learn to read the hebrew and study it for it will blow your mind!

What is it about the Hebrews book anyway?

They know things that the other people on the earth do not know!

Think on it!

Eileen Carlan said...

A recurrent idea expressed here, and in many other places besides Mr. Cahn's book, is the need for national repentance. The responsibility for that is usually directed at American Christians. What I don't understand is, how can a person repent for someone else's sins? How can Christians repent for the sins of unbelievers?

Anonymous said...

The judgements are on the nation not the President. It doesn't matter how christian Bush was or wasn't.

Anonymous said...

Jarhead Pina Colada said that the real ancient mystery behind the HARBINGER is? THE ZOHAR SPEAKS!
That is one of Mr. Cahn's resources for uncovering ancient mysteries!

Anonymous said...

Scary that fundamentalist Christians actually follow this type of tripe as Gospel truth. Particularly hilarious is the attempt by "Ground Zero" to assign numerical values (from the English alphabet) to prove that the countries/cities that did not even exist at the time of the writing of the Torah (in Hebrew) equal the "Number of the Devil" from the New Testament. The "secrets" revealed by Cahn are a vain attempt to arrive at a truth that simply is not there; his biblical scholarship is abyssmal. Finally, let's just get it out there -"Messianic Judaism" is NOT Judaism at all, but a naive attempt to bring Jews who are obviously not Christian to accept Jesus as their savior. I don't begrudge Christians their Christianity and I expect the same respect. A Jew who believes in Jesus as Messiah is not a follower of Judaism. Period. Beware quackery.